The pants fit really well and the waist adjustment gives a lot of flexibility to get the fit right. The flow a lot of air and are very comfortable to wear on the bike. I found with the liner installed the pants to block the wind---almost too much in warm weather. The liner is claimed to be breathable, but my seat area felt a little damp on a ride in the upper 70's with sunshine. A pant like this without mesh would be more comfortable in those conditions. I think of it as perfect for a day that will start cold in the mountains and be warm during the day. You must find a place to remove the liner, however, and that isn't always convenient.